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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone local has the following items

Monitor for the commentary team (they need a second screen)
Printer to just print the pairings between each round


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Advocate wrote:Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone local has the following items

Monitor for the commentary team (they need a second screen)
Printer to just print the pairings between each round
Would be nice if we could just put the pairings on a big tv or projector or something rather than printing it out. Would make it easier for everyone to see at the same time and would only require an HDMI cable and a TV. Wouldn't have to worry about paper, ink, other technical issues.

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We could do that but it would cost us $350 a day to have a TV

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i'm assuming we get to keep the tv, for that price?

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Fine fine, I can bring a TV and a monitor.

Don't have a working printer though.

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darkjediknight11 wrote:i'm assuming we get to keep the tv, for that price?
seriously. I would think that it would be more like $35 a day to use a tv. Does the room not have a projector screen that we could use?

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I can bring a printer. Just let me know if we are using a PC or a Mac so I can get the right drivers to whoever is operating it.

I also have a projector if we decide to go that route instead. I'm not sure how well it would show up on walls though depending on the lighting in the room. We'd also have to make sure we have the right hookups (I don't recall if it's VGA or DVI, but can check if you guys want to pursue that idea)
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It's counter intuitive for us tech guys, but just printing the pairings tends to work the best at big events like this.
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puck71 wrote:It's counter intuitive for us tech guys, but just printing the pairings tends to work the best at big events like this.
With the potential for 60-70 players to be there, the only way I see printing as being beneficial is if you print like 5 copies that get passed around and only a few people can see the page at once. Why go through that hassle when you can show it on a tv where all players can see it at once?
Also, it seems like a waste of paper and ink.

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JediJer wrote:
puck71 wrote:It's counter intuitive for us tech guys, but just printing the pairings tends to work the best at big events like this.
With the potential for 60-70 players to be there, the only way I see printing as being beneficial is if you print like 5 copies that get passed around and only a few people can see the page at once. Why go through that hassle when you can show it on a tv where all players can see it at once?
Also, it seems like a waste of paper and ink.
or post it on the forums. we all have cell phones.

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JediJer wrote:
puck71 wrote:It's counter intuitive for us tech guys, but just printing the pairings tends to work the best at big events like this.
With the potential for 60-70 players to be there, the only way I see printing as being beneficial is if you print like 5 copies that get passed around and only a few people can see the page at once. Why go through that hassle when you can show it on a tv where all players can see it at once?
Also, it seems like a waste of paper and ink.
Generally you print a couple copies and tape them to the wall. People go up and look, find their table number, and sit down. It's pretty efficient actually, even with like 150 people.
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puck71 wrote:
JediJer wrote:
puck71 wrote:It's counter intuitive for us tech guys, but just printing the pairings tends to work the best at big events like this.
With the potential for 60-70 players to be there, the only way I see printing as being beneficial is if you print like 5 copies that get passed around and only a few people can see the page at once. Why go through that hassle when you can show it on a tv where all players can see it at once?
Also, it seems like a waste of paper and ink.
Generally you print a couple copies and tape them to the wall. People go up and look, find their table number, and sit down. It's pretty efficient actually, even with like 150 people.
For reference, Magic tournaments with 2K players still use paper pairings.
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Hmm except I forget if the software does table numbers??
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puck71 wrote:Hmm except I forget if the software does table numbers??
It does.

This is exactly how we did it at Worlds last year. Was one of the bright spots of that weekend
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I for one will miss Kim shouting at everyone to shut up four times, then someone with a louder voice having to shout at everyone, then her shouting the pairings.

Every round.

But wall printouts do seem more efficient.

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arebelspy wrote:I for one will miss Kim shouting at everyone to shut up four times, then someone with a louder voice having to shout at everyone, then her shouting the pairings.

Every round.

But wall printouts do seem more efficient.
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puck71 wrote:Hmm except I forget if the software does table numbers??
This reminds me that I need to get the sheets with table numbers printed out and laminated before I go to the airport.

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imrahil327 wrote:
puck71 wrote:
JediJer wrote:
puck71 wrote:It's counter intuitive for us tech guys, but just printing the pairings tends to work the best at big events like this.
With the potential for 60-70 players to be there, the only way I see printing as being beneficial is if you print like 5 copies that get passed around and only a few people can see the page at once. Why go through that hassle when you can show it on a tv where all players can see it at once?
Also, it seems like a waste of paper and ink.
Generally you print a couple copies and tape them to the wall. People go up and look, find their table number, and sit down. It's pretty efficient actually, even with like 150 people.
For reference, Magic tournaments with 2K players still use paper pairings.
I can confirm that paper pairings are commonly used at Magic events, including the 1k+ player Grand Prixs. You post them on the wall (or zip banners!), people find their name and their seat.

With 2k players, it takes a couple of minutes for everyone to find their seats. It turns out that it's not much faster with only 100.

(My apologies if the tournament software does this next section already, I haven't used it at all)

I'd suggest 2 pairings boards with players listed alphabetically, if possible. Listing pairings by table becomes a bottleneck as people need to scan the whole page early on, instead of the section with their last name.

The most useful thing is paper result slips that you turn in to whoever's taking results. That way, you win, you fill it out that you win, both people sign it, you run it up, then do stuff. The result person doesn't need to be there all the time, so they'll have time to hit the bathroom or get food.

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Apollyon wrote:I'd suggest 2 pairings boards with players listed alphabetically, if possible. Listing pairings by table becomes a bottleneck as people need to scan the whole page early on, instead of the section with their last name.
It does two lists, dark and light side, both alphabetical. So it works quite well.
Apollyon wrote:The most useful thing is paper result slips that you turn in to whoever's taking results. That way, you win, you fill it out that you win, both people sign it, you run it up, then do stuff. The result person doesn't need to be there all the time, so they'll have time to hit the bathroom or get food.
We probably don't have enough players to NEED to do results slips, but if someone has time to make them, they can certainly help speed things up for the TD.
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puck71 wrote:
Apollyon wrote:The most useful thing is paper result slips that you turn in to whoever's taking results. That way, you win, you fill it out that you win, both people sign it, you run it up, then do stuff. The result person doesn't need to be there all the time, so they'll have time to hit the bathroom or get food.
We probably don't have enough players to NEED to do results slips, but if someone has time to make them, they can certainly help speed things up for the TD.
That might be something to put on the software roadmap, then.

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