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Agents of the Black sun decides to no longer recognize bounty hunters as agents

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https://gemp.starwarsccg.org/gemp-swccg ... jp1hoewhe7

either ds turn 8 or turn 9 black sun agents stop being black sun agents after Obi Wan Kenobi v hit the table. Last time i remember them being agents.


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I was hoping this issue would magically go away. We saw this a long while back when AOBS was the only thing people were playing. We’ve now have 2 replays of it and one other unconfirmed report.

I don’t think it’s related to Obi.

Do you know if there were any ‘reverts’ around the time it stopped working?

We’ve had a few people look at this and are clueless as to how this can actually happen.
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hyvee_doughboy wrote:I was hoping this issue would magically go away. We saw this a long while back when AOBS was the only thing people were playing. We’ve now have 2 replays of it and one other unconfirmed report.

I don’t think it’s related to Obi.

Do you know if there were any ‘reverts’ around the time it stopped working?

We’ve had a few people look at this and are clueless as to how this can actually happen.
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I think it was pretty clean. I may be misremembering though
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Batmouse wrote:
itcouldbewirfs ping
I think it was pretty clean. I may be misremembering though

in order to 'ping' you need to do (quote="itcouldbewirfs") but replace the () with []
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quesosauce37 wrote:
Batmouse wrote:
itcouldbewirfs ping
I think it was pretty clean. I may be misremembering though

in order to 'ping' you need to do (quote="itcouldbewirfs") but replace the () with []
I wish there was a what he said function that could just do that for me
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hyvee_doughboy wrote:I was hoping this issue would magically go away. We saw this a long while back when AOBS was the only thing people were playing. We’ve now have 2 replays of it and one other unconfirmed report.

I don’t think it’s related to Obi.

Do you know if there were any ‘reverts’ around the time it stopped working?

We’ve had a few people look at this and are clueless as to how this can actually happen.
It's not just coruscant v

When it happened first to me months and months ago I sent it to John Anderson via slack, and it was a game where both coruscant and prophecy's icon shut off at the same time-no activation from them, no adding to drain.

Prophecy still moved, but that's all it did.

So it wasn't related to bounty hunters not being agents.

It is a super weird bug, with no discernable pattern I've seen.

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It also had to deal with the bounty hunters though because I couldn’t deploy cad bane because he was no longer a black sun agent. None of them may have been at that point
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OK

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Batmouse wrote:It also had to deal with the bounty hunters though because I couldn’t deploy cad bane because he was no longer a black sun agent. None of them may have been at that point
I haven't seen any of the other replays, but with the others was their a character OOP while the objective was flipped? In this match it appears that it is working correctly during the deploy phase where he kills luke, flips the objective, and then lets Fett go OOP. The next control phase it is obvious that game isn't recognizing the bounty hunter on faleen fist as it is a drain of 0 and he can't drain at the JCC because of simple tricks.

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Batmouse wrote:It also had to deal with the bounty hunters though because I couldn’t deploy cad bane because he was no longer a black sun agent. None of them may have been at that point
I haven't seen any of the other replays, but with the others was their a character OOP while the objective was flipped? In this match it appears that it is working correctly during the deploy phase where he kills luke, flips the objective, and then lets Fett go OOP. The next control phase it is obvious that game isn't recognizing the bounty hunter on faleen fist as it is a drain of 0 and he can't drain at the JCC because of simple tricks.

Thanks!
I think this is what wirfs pointed out. The fett oop was what he thought triggered it.
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Duplicate.

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Batmouse wrote:
dorshe1 wrote:
Batmouse wrote:It also had to deal with the bounty hunters though because I couldn’t deploy cad bane because he was no longer a black sun agent. None of them may have been at that point
I haven't seen any of the other replays, but with the others was their a character OOP while the objective was flipped? In this match it appears that it is working correctly during the deploy phase where he kills luke, flips the objective, and then lets Fett go OOP. The next control phase it is obvious that game isn't recognizing the bounty hunter on faleen fist as it is a drain of 0 and he can't drain at the JCC because of simple tricks.

Thanks!
I think this is what wirfs pointed out. The fett oop was what he thought triggered it.
It is worth a try to test out. I assume a character being put out of play when they are on the 7 side is sufficiently rare that it wouldn't happen every match, but often enough that it happens to people since maintenance Fett is popular.

If we have more examples I can watch those too.


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I know this one seems to be a mystery but I want to bump it as it seems like too big an issue to leave out there.
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Have you guys tried just deleting and recoding the card?
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gogolen wrote:Have you guys tried just deleting and recoding the card?
That sounds messy to me. I don't even know if we're sure it's something specific to the aobs code. That could be a lot of work without solving it (and worse, could miss something else and make it worse).
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fungineer wrote:I know this one seems to be a mystery but I want to bump it as it seems like too big an issue to leave out there.
They know it is an issue but can't replicate it. If they can't replicate it they can't fix it

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dorshe1 wrote:
fungineer wrote:I know this one seems to be a mystery but I want to bump it as it seems like too big an issue to leave out there.
They know it is an issue but can't replicate it. If they can't replicate it they can't fix it

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Has anyone even come across it recently? I've played probably 20 games with AOBS since this thread was started and haven't had it happen to me, and I've probably spectated the same number of AOBS games and never saw it happen to anyone else.

I'm sure it didn't just go away on its own, but would be curious to know how frequent it's been over the last 3 months.
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I think it’s people not letting boba fett go out of play when it’s flipped really
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Been playing AOBS pretty regularly with no issues, but finally got hit with this tonight.

Replay: https://gemp.starwarsccg.org/gemp-swccg ... qyi7kl9rs7

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Occured at the start of DS turn #6.

I was on the 0 side at the time, and had been for a couple of turns.

I had not placed Fett (or any other characters) out of play. I had just retrieved Fett using the Sewer towards the end of LS turn #5, but doubt that would be related.

Also looks like it doesn't just impact bounty hunters. Coruscant was no longer a bg at the start of this turn, which implies that Guri also lost her status as a black sun agent. LS lost a force icon at the start of the turn, presumably from Coruscant...but strangely, DS didn't lose it's extra icon from occupying with an agent.

There were a handful of reverts during the game. But I ran through the replay and none of them should break it.

Hope these details are helpful in trying to find some common denominator.
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