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I am working on a new Dark Side deck. Any ideas on how to make it work SOONER than the end of the first deploy phase, WITHOUT relying on the actions of the opponent and WITHOUT relying on a lucky draw in opening hand? Switching to another objective is not a problem!

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1. Knowledge And Defense (v)
2. Court Of The Vile Gangster
3. Jabbas Palace: Audience Chamber
4. Jabbas Palace: Dungeon
5. Tatooine: Great Pit Of Carkoon
6. Twilek Advisor
7. Forced Servitude
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Thanks for your input! ;)

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Not exactly sure what you're trying to achieve. Milling your deck before you get hit by Court I assume.
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My best bet is to go: I am your father V + Silence is golden V.

I'm not 100%, but I think you're allowed to try and deploy the saber on anyone - since you can't know for sure if it only deploys on Vader. You do need a bit of luck though, unless playing multiples which then defeats the purpose I guess.

Forced needs to be in your deck, along with any alien you can DL with chamber / Vader if you switch to a Mustafar platform.
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aermet69 wrote:
January 3rd, 2021, 5:38 am
My best bet is to go: I am your father V + Silence is golden V.

I'm not 100%, but I think you're allowed to try and deploy the saber on anyone - since you can't know for sure if it only deploys on Vader. You do need a bit of luck though, unless playing multiples which then defeats the purpose I guess.

Forced needs to be in your deck, along with any alien you can DL with chamber / Vader if you switch to a Mustafar platform.
Cool! Did not think I Am Your Father (v) could work like that, but it sounds reasonable! In that case, it can be done DURING the deploy phase with Televan Koreyy, who deploys for 0 Force. Then you do not need to activate anything, so no chance that you activate Televan or Servitude.

Revised decklist:
1. Knowledge And Defense (v)
2. Court Of The Vile Gangster
3. Jabbas Palace: Audience Chamber
4. Jabbas Palace: Dungeon
5. Tatooine: Great Pit Of Carkoon
6. Prepared Defenses
7. Silence Is Golden (v)
8. I Am Your Father (v)
9. Televan Koreyy
10. Forced Servitude
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Okay. So you now achieved to die before the end of deploy phase.... :??
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aermet69 wrote:
January 3rd, 2021, 6:25 am
Okay. So you now achieved to die before the end of deploy phase.... :??
Yes! So more time to drink beer or have dinner during a tournament, without having to drop from the tournament! :-D

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Watch out for Throne Room Mains, you will have to deploy forced servitude on the Throne Room and they could deploy like.. Nien Numb or Ten Numb to the throne room to cancel the effect before you can get an autoloss. Heck they might even find a way to lose before you do!
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Solidsnack3 wrote:
January 3rd, 2021, 12:04 pm
Watch out for Throne Room Mains, you will have to deploy forced servitude on the Throne Room and they could deploy like.. Nien Numb or Ten Numb to the throne room to cancel the effect before you can get an autoloss. Heck they might even find a way to lose before you do!
But wouldn't that mean they both win?

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Nice, I am going to start saving mouse droids and see if I can spring this on my buddy the next time we kitchen table it.
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I'm confused why you need the IAYF(v) and Televan here. Can't you start Silence is Golden(v), use that to deploy Forced Servitude and then initiate self destruction?
DutchVader wrote:
January 3rd, 2021, 6:04 am
aermet69 wrote:
January 3rd, 2021, 5:38 am
My best bet is to go: I am your father V + Silence is golden V.

I'm not 100%, but I think you're allowed to try and deploy the saber on anyone - since you can't know for sure if it only deploys on Vader. You do need a bit of luck though, unless playing multiples which then defeats the purpose I guess.

Forced needs to be in your deck, along with any alien you can DL with chamber / Vader if you switch to a Mustafar platform.
Cool! Did not think I Am Your Father (v) could work like that, but it sounds reasonable! In that case, it can be done DURING the deploy phase with Televan Koreyy, who deploys for 0 Force. Then you do not need to activate anything, so no chance that you activate Televan or Servitude.

Revised decklist:
1. Knowledge And Defense (v)
2. Court Of The Vile Gangster
3. Jabbas Palace: Audience Chamber
4. Jabbas Palace: Dungeon
5. Tatooine: Great Pit Of Carkoon
6. Prepared Defenses
7. Silence Is Golden (v)
8. I Am Your Father (v)
9. Televan Koreyy
10. Forced Servitude
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There needs to be something that causes force loss in order for it to work, and we are trying to get it to work as fast as possible.

The character downloads to the audience chamber for free. Although now we can't use the court ping to lose, trying to deploy Vader's lightsaber from lost pile by losing a force starts the chain reaction (I am Your Father V) and achieves the result faster than court would (middle of deploy as opposed to end of deploy).
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Does Ben Quadinaros' Podracer need another podracer to work? If not, you could pull this off during your control phase.

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ElDuderino wrote:I'm confused why you need the IAYF(v) and Televan here. Can't you start Silence is Golden(v), use that to deploy Forced Servitude and then initiate self destruction?
Yes. And that will kill you end of DS deploy.

Televan via AC and IAYF v kills you in DS deploy. Slightly faster. ;)

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Solidsnack3 wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 6:19 pm
There needs to be something that causes force loss in order for it to work, and we are trying to get it to work as fast as possible.

The character downloads to the audience chamber for free. Although now we can't use the court ping to lose, trying to deploy Vader's lightsaber from lost pile by losing a force starts the chain reaction (I am Your Father V) and achieves the result faster than court would (middle of deploy as opposed to end of deploy).
arebelspy wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 9:51 pm
Yes. And that will kill you end of DS deploy.

Televan via AC and IAYF v kills you in DS deploy. Slightly faster. ;)
Lol.

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How does the "Once per turn you may lose 1 Force to draw top card of your Reserve Deck into your hand" on Shot In The Dark (errata-ed text) work? Could this be used in any Dark deck to get an auto-loss as the first action?

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DutchVader wrote:
January 6th, 2021, 4:58 am
How does the "Once per turn you may lose 1 Force to draw top card of your Reserve Deck into your hand" on Shot In The Dark (errata-ed text) work? Could this be used in any Dark deck to get an auto-loss as the first action?

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Yes. It would work, but as Seth mentions, it's impossible to start those together (currently).
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The earlier we figure this out, the larger the lunch I can order! Maybe I can get one of those giant sandwiches for 5 people if we can get this done in control or activate!
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This should be MKOS otherwise LS may play their own Audience Chamber?!

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ketwol wrote:This should be MKOS otherwise LS may play their own Audience Chamber?!
In that case you just don't deploy Televan and lose to court obj instead of IAYF.

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