I do believe on this one I get a valid "I TOLD YOU SO"? (Not to Alden, but to those who thought those cards were fine even after the redux.)_maul wrote:Well Luke, Luke(v) and Optimism(v) should never have been made in the first place, so using them as a reason that HD is overpowered is a terrible rationale.
Regardless, the power of Hunt Down lies with in EC(V) and WTO(V). Those two in combination give HD the ability to activate a lot while giving up very little, and dominate the ground early game until the LS can get either enough force to deploy big characters or their own bg site to circumvent WTO(V) so EPPs don't suck. And while the LS player is setting this up, they're eating a bunch of damage. These two cards took HD from a good DS deck to a GREAT DS deck.
WYS isn't a problem, to be honest. I think what you were more seeing is the random goof meta allowing WYS to step in and perform very well. In a solid meta, DS mains will beat WYS off the ground(Watto gives the palace raiders a hard time), and set up S&D and randomly beat on guys that do come to the ground, while holding space waiting for an opening. It becomes a close game, and WYS does not survive extremely well in a solid meta with decks like HD at the top(and I know we all talk about HD being ridiculous right now, which it is, but it was not played much in day 2 or 3 because everyone was building a LS deck with HD in mind first, everything else second, virtually making HD unplayable...).
As was already mentioned, decks like QMC Ellors and SYC Fear(V) with super cheap S&Ds are the problem, not HD/WYS(or even TRM for that matter). This is the "chess match" we've always referred to, where it's just "deploy as much as I can and drain as much as I can" as opposed to focusing on interaction.