_maul wrote:Why should anyone in Europe want to pay the PC for services that they essentially don't get any real benefit from?
When the collection of asshats around here start to realize that a volunteer organization shouldn't be continually trying to "prove" their worthiness...maybe this community would start to grow. But even as a group of volunteers they are peppered with "what are you doing for me"...instead of what can I do for you.
This is and was never about supporting the PC. And if you mean "the collection of asshats" equals "Euros" be assured we are supporting the PC. There are many volunteers that among other things help in design, ratings, SWIP, playtest etc. And others like Uber-Obi are donating money to the PC, see I'm a Premium Member like you, too (BTW what is an asshat?...).
What we want is to host Worlds in Europe at least once, for many years now. The "official" way was persuit countless of times, hundreds of emails have been written back and forth, I persoanlly remeber two applications of our part with a detailed plan of everything that was requested and Chris Menzel (Shadow 14) even gave a guarantee of 50+ players attending. Other applications had none of this, actually in one the tornament location was still in question... Anyway, I don't remember Europe winning the bid (what happend with our applications? Were they actually considered?). Was there a thread for applications this year? Actually I don't think so, but I could be wrong. Nevertheless, this year, for me the decision to host World in NJ came out of nowhere. Honestly, I don't know what else we can do?
arebelspy wrote:give them worlds once. try it out.
i bet the problems can be worked out, and we can still have a big us tourney near the same time.
i think having a big us tourney around the same time would be paramount to sabotaging euro worlds.
This is also my oppinion. I still belive that there are US players, who actually will come to Euro Worlds, maybe combined with a vacation. By scheduling a big us tourny around the same time you are assuming the opposite. I don't think that it really matters but in the PC era I don't remember any (big) tournament in Europe, scheduled at the same time as Worlds.