DS deck that can beat WYS and HB v

[Ant]

So lets put this forum to us, at TMWs WYS and HB v put up some scary numbers, so what can DS do to assure a win against them?

HB v needs to occupy 3 sites to flip and control 2 to stay flipped, so they need ground. WYS, I need to look that up, but all I saw was space and the Cantina.

[Anodos]

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[quesosauce37]

it would normally be taken care of, but i cant delete posts in this thread for some raisin

[_maul]

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I don't see any posts of a spambot here, save what was saved for posterity's sake.

[RexBanner7]

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[futantshadow]

no DS deck can beat both WYS and HBv. I'm not sure if any DS deck can even beat one of them. Your best chance is to kick your opponent mercilessly in the nuts until he passes out and go for the timed win.

[arebelspy]

no DS deck can beat both WYS and HBv. I'm not sure if any DS deck can even beat one of them. Your best chance is to kick your opponent mercilessly in the nuts until he passes out and go for the timed win.

i think you're still in the 6 months ago meta.

[_maul]

HD(v) probably can.

that decks seems really solid.

[arebelspy]

HD(v) probably can.

that decks seems really solid.

well no, it can't beat wys. but yeah it should beat hb v. ds mains > ls mains right now.

[_maul]

HD(v) probably can.

that decks seems really solid.

well no, it can't beat wys. but yeah it should beat hb v. ds mains > ls mains right now.

really?

I beat a HD(v) deck pretty solidly with a WHT(v) deck (that wasn't that great to boot) the other day.

[arebelspy]

i guess wht may beat hd v, its designed to take apart ds mains decks and lose to everything else.

btu like hd v should beat real ls mains decks, like profit and trm.

[qasur]

HD(v) probably can.

that decks seems really solid.

well no, it can't beat wys. but yeah it should beat hb v. ds mains > ls mains right now.

Really? What happened to DS suddenly that made them better? I mean, we got Galen's new Saber and Vader got a V'd cloak. One adds PoA and the other cancels it (and adds 2 to immunity), but other than that, how did LS mains get worse? Mace still swings twice and has complete immunity and Luke, STIF still has ITA < 6 + 7 Power. The best answer to stiffy is just a tracked 7... which DS doesn't have.

I'm still waiting on DS to get a good 7 destiny card achin' to Luke's hand and IWYT. Those alone + Stiffy Luke are stupid. 7's that get recycled. It's insanely powerful. His recycle ability should be retrieval instead to balance it out: "When Luke is lost, you may retrieve all cards that were attached to him." Despite balancing him, he would be able to be used with AJR again... so I don't kow if that's a good thing.

[_maul]

Why?

I guess I am not all that familiar with HD(v) save the few games I've played against it but it seems to play just a lot of the same characters and drop/hit/cause damage?

[JosephPhillips]

Imp Artillery?

[cooleo1c]

_maul's trooper deck owns WYS(V) and HBv(V) I haven't played against regular WYS yet though

[qasur]

Imp Artillery?

Yeah, it's about their ownly one (besides The Phantom Menace). However, both are very situational. Maul is lost/canceled/can't be played in liek 50% of DS decks and Imp Artillery requires non-Lightsaber weapons... which means either Troopers w/Guns, AT-STs w/cannons, or AT-ATs w/cannons... all of which aren't heavily played.

Luke is available to every LS deck basically, and any ground-based version of a LS deck utlizing him would be stupid to not include his personal Destiny 7 cards because they're all too good. Rycar (v) just makes LS have amazing options. Not only is there Luke's Bionic Hand, IWYTv, Obi's Livejournal, but they also can get Demotion too, which is very good versus DS Space. Part of the weakness to DS space is that Demotion plain owns their admirals (part of why Thrawn + Justifier (v) isn't so awesome... usually thrawn has blanked gametext).

[_maul]

Well, you can't pull Demotion or anything.

Wait.

[futantshadow]

no DS deck can beat both WYS and HBv. I'm not sure if any DS deck can even beat one of them. Your best chance is to kick your opponent mercilessly in the nuts until he passes out and go for the timed win.

i think you're still in the 6 months ago meta.

probably year ago meta.. haven't played in awhile I just know WYS and HBv are stupid-dumb decks.

[Lukes Bionic Hand]

HD(v) probably can.

that decks seems really solid.

well no, it can't beat wys. but yeah it should beat hb v. ds mains > ls mains right now.

Really? What happened to DS suddenly that made them better? I mean, we got Galen's new Saber and Vader got a V'd cloak. One adds PoA and the other cancels it (and adds 2 to immunity), but other than that, how did LS mains get worse? Mace still swings twice and has complete immunity and Luke, STIF still has ITA < 6 + 7 Power. The best answer to stiffy is just a tracked 7... which DS doesn't have.

ni chuba na v
galen's new saber
force field that works with mara/galen
anti-maintenance cards got fixed
vader's phantom menace

and the best answer to SITF luke is galen and a destiny to attrition. galen is pretty much a one man wrecking crew now.