When are the decklists going to be posted?

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Brad Eier wrote:send deck lists to me. i wil lbuy a scanner and figure out how to do it. no decklists posted next year is silly.
Why? Decipher never posted decklists, this is a pretty recent thing that the PC has been posting decklists. I'd rather decklists get posted if people want to post them, than just because.

I would be interested in a debate on the subject.


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AnakinSolo wrote:i was making fun of Garrett not you. Cant speak for others.
* off, when you want to buy me a scanner, and then pay me to devote a great deal of time to scanning 200+ decklists instead of spending time with my wife and kids then we can talk. Since I don't own a scanner, and already devote more time and money to this game than most I don't feel the least bit bad about not spending more money and time just so other people can copy decklists.

However Tim has graciously volunteered, so as soon as he sends me his address I'll have all the decklists in the mail a few days later.

Moving forward I don't think we'll be requiring decklists be sent to the PC for the 09 season.
chill out Garrett. I dont blame you for not wanting or being able to scan decklists. I blame you for presenting it as some type of technological barrier instead of calling for volunteers to do it. Turns out there are volunteers anyways.
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Not owning the technology is a technological barrier. Since this is a volunteer organization that can't just buy the required technology.
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AnakinSolo wrote:i was making fun of Garrett not you. Cant speak for others.
* off, when you want to buy me a scanner, and then pay me to devote a great deal of time to scanning 200+ decklists instead of spending time with my wife and kids then we can talk. Since I don't own a scanner, and already devote more time and money to this game than most I don't feel the least bit bad about not spending more money and time just so other people can copy decklists.

However Tim has graciously volunteered, so as soon as he sends me his address I'll have all the decklists in the mail a few days later.

Moving forward I don't think we'll be requiring decklists be sent to the PC for the 09 season.
chill out Garrett. I dont blame you for not wanting or being able to scan decklists. I blame you for presenting it as some type of technological barrier instead of calling for volunteers to do it. Turns out there are volunteers anyways.
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deadbody wrote:Not owning the technology is a technological barrier. Since this is a volunteer organization that can't just buy the required technology.
thats silly but whatever. SOMEONE is going to do the decklists and thats all I wanted.
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garrett, next time you don't feel like doing something as an advocate, ask for volunteers.

if no one volunteers, it doesn't happen, and probably no one cares that it does. if people want it to happen, there will be volunteers.

no one is placing it all on you, but to just be like "no, won't happen" is pretty poor.

thanks tim for volunteering, btw

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garrett you have backed yourself into a bit of a pickle:

on one hand, you come out and say worlds 2009 wil lbe in fall, unless given a compelling reason to move the date. you want to keep the status quo, cause thats "what the pc has done the past few years"

yet, you DON'T want decklists posted, even though that is ALSO something the pc has done the past few years. given that aglets has volunteered, as i myself have, there is no compelling reason to NOT have decklists posted next year

personally i dont care 1 way or the other, but worlds lists at least should be posted i think (and thanks tim and garret for tag teaming that task and making it happen)
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Are we going to get round by round results or no? I am just wondering about some of my matchups, it seemed kind of weird and wanted to check it. Not a big deal imo if we don't.

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Brad Eier wrote:garrett you have backed yourself into a bit of a pickle:

on one hand, you come out and say worlds 2009 wil lbe in fall, unless given a compelling reason to move the date. you want to keep the status quo, cause thats "what the pc has done the past few years"

yet, you DON'T want decklists posted, even though that is ALSO something the pc has done the past few years. given that aglets has volunteered, as i myself have, there is no compelling reason to NOT have decklists posted next year

personally i dont care 1 way or the other, but worlds lists at least should be posted i think (and thanks tim and garret for tag teaming that task and making it happen)
The difference is that there is a compelling reason not to have decklists, we no longer have the technology available to us to guarantee they get posted in a timely manner (if at all). WHile Tim has graciously volunteered to do the Worlds lists, I would be loathe to suddenly volunteer him or anyone else to input all decklists for all regionals. Yet that is what is being requested.
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deadbody wrote: The difference is that there is a compelling reason not to have decklists, we no longer have the technology available to us to guarantee they get posted in a timely manner (if at all). WHile Tim has graciously volunteered to do the Worlds lists, I would be loathe to suddenly volunteer him or anyone else to input all decklists for all regionals. Yet that is what is being requested.
I ran a regional this last year (Dagobah) and within a week of the event I had scanned and emailed Cedric the decklists in pdf format. As far as I know, these lists were never publicly posted, although I did offer to email them to anyone who asked.

Why is it that if the TD of the regional scans the decklists in and emails them they cannot be posted?

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this just further hints that we as players should type up our decklists on MS word before the tourney. If you make any last second changes, cross out and write in what you changed, but at least your MS word file will be pretty damn close to what you brought. This helps with the constant bickering over handwriting, and helps in these situations when people would like to see decklists. Am I the only one who thinks this is a great solution?

Typing is easier than writing it out during the tourney, and with everyone sitting there writing, its pretty damn easy for your opponents to scout what cards your writing. At our colorado states tourney this august, i sat there with my lists already turned in while just about everyone else was frantically writing their lists.
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i can post them

i wil lvolunteer to help get stuff posted for next year
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If you don't have the times or means to post results and decklists, why would you be the one who held onto the command cards and decklists after worlds?
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Posting the lists shouldn't just be about whether or not we have the means to do it, as others have intimated here.

It's about the open sharing of ideas, making sure one group of people don't have a competitive edge over others simply because of their location.

It's just simple fairness.

We need to spread the "wealth of ideas" around.

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arebelspy wrote:garrett, next time you don't feel like doing something as an advocate, ask for volunteers.

if no one volunteers, it doesn't happen, and probably no one cares that it does. if people want it to happen, there will be volunteers.

no one is placing it all on you, but to just be like "no, won't happen" is pretty poor.

thanks tim for volunteering, btw
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yeah garrett i do appreciate your doing advocate duties, it is a thankless job

i do think we could get donations to buy a pc scanner if need be, didnt we do the same thing for like developing some of the website here or something?
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I agree with brad. FWIW I dont think its an onerous burden to ask each regional director to arrange to send in pdfs of decklists. If they cant, and no one at the regional volunteers, I am sure are volunteers who will do it, including Brad and myself.
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Heck, I've got a high speed copier/scanner at work. For the MPC, I came in 10 min early and had it done. Of course, Pat was typing all of them up so that delayed the output a little bit. I'd be happy to volunteer that machinery at any time.
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I also have access to a high speed scanner at work. If decklists were required to be typed, I could scan them in and have them uploaded in short order. I think.

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actually I am looking at a table top scanner. We could probably raise money for it then have a tournament team member scan them going forward.

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macgyver221 wrote:I also have access to a high speed scanner at work. If decklists were required to be typed, I could scan them in and have them uploaded in short order. I think.

ooh.

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