Maneuver substitution and modification

[Munchanka]

When you have cards like Legacy's Jedi Starfighter where the maneuver = *, and game text says * = pilot's ability, is this the only maneuver the starfighter can have or is this the base maneuver value that can be modified?

[Gergall]

It can be modified. It is not a "reset".

Reset
The changing of a value to a specific new value (such as power=0). When a value is reset (e.g., ion cannons, crashed vehicles, weapons that set forfeit = 0, Lateral Damage), that value is unmodifiable until restored to normal (or until the affected card leaves play). Some cards define their value in their game text, such as Jawa or Brainiac. This is not resetting and may be modified.

[Karrdeshark]

It can be modified. It is not a "reset".

Reset
The changing of a value to a specific new value (such as power=0). When a value is reset (e.g., ion cannons, crashed vehicles, weapons that set forfeit = 0, Lateral Damage), that value is unmodifiable until restored to normal (or until the affected card leaves play). Some cards define their value in their game text, such as Jawa or Brainiac. This is not resetting and may be modified.

Does the bolded text only apply to cards with a '*'?

[Gergall]

It can be modified. It is not a "reset".

Reset
The changing of a value to a specific new value (such as power=0). When a value is reset (e.g., ion cannons, crashed vehicles, weapons that set forfeit = 0, Lateral Damage), that value is unmodifiable until restored to normal (or until the affected card leaves play). Some cards define their value in their game text, such as Jawa or Brainiac. This is not resetting and may be modified.

Does the bolded text only apply to cards with a '*'?

Do you have any specific examples you want to look at?

At the very least, it could be some other symbol. For example, Brainiac famously uses X and Y instead of *

[arebelspy]

The Falcon with Rey piloting? (On phone so don't have text, sorry!)

[Karrdeshark]

That's correct, I was thinking of the Falcon:

While [Episode VII] Chewie, [Episode VII] Han, or Rey piloting manuver = 6 and immune to attrition < 5."

In proofing, we assumed that meant that its maneuver could no longer be modified because it had been reset. Is that correct?

[Gergall]

Yeah that's a reset to 6, no modification possible.

Another example of a reset is Like My Father Before Me resetting Luke's deploy to 6. No modification possible, from Luke's own text or anywhere else.

[puck71]

Based on that ar entry, it does seem the falcon is defining its value in its game text and thus would not be a reset.

[arebelspy]

Based on that ar entry, it does seem the falcon is defining its value in its game text and thus would not be a reset.

I thought that for a minute, but I don't think so.

If the printed maneuver was *, And the gametext said "* = 6 if han or rey piloting, 3 otherwise" or somethign to that effect, it would be defining in the game text, and would be modifiable.

Since the printed maneuver is 4 and the gametext says it = 6 when rey/han piloting, then it's a reset. Because it's already defined (in the printed part) and then the gametext resets it. It doesn't define it. Therefore it isn't modifiable.

That's how I see it.

Hopefully gergall can confirm.

[Gergall]

Falcon is not "defining" the value in its game text. It more closely resembles the first line of that same quoted AR entry.

Reset
The changing of a value to a specific new value (such as power=0).

The examples of defining are Jawa and Brainiac, cards that have variables (asterisk, X, Y) and you have to read the text to find out what it means.

[Karrdeshark]

Great, thanks! Glad that works the way we thought.