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Meto wrote:The 2/2 deck should beat it most of the time.

Although I'm probably going to say that for any dark deck you bring up.
Your deck will shift the meta greatly though. I see a lot of vader betrayer in our future, and he seems like he should give this deck huge issues.

Props on an amazing deck, but with amazing decks, comes hard core teching, and I am wondering if this deck can stand up to hd and hd v with that vader in it. Will be really tough for sure.
Yeah, the 2/2 deck is about as bad as the 3/2 deck but a little worse vs Maul YA and now there's betrayer vader so that helps even the joyous mains on mains action. I had a feeling Kyle was gonna wreck house this year. The 2/2 deck such a newb crusher 'cause a lot of times they can't stand up to the early pressure the drain of three puts on...and its not like the deck puts a whole lot on the table so good luck drain racing! If you spread thin, 2/2 will rain jedi on you. If you tank up, you're just dedicating more cards and life force to put you behind in the drain race...it really is quite stupid. Even kyle himself agrees that a fully immune jedi with a triple destiny saber threatening a drain of three on turn 0 of the game SHOULDN'T be possible.


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Airdog2003 wrote:If you spread thin, 2/2 will rain jedi on you. If you tank up, you're just dedicating more cards and life force to put you behind in the drain race...
Unless you tank up right in his face, AT his starting site. In other words, the deck seeks to make its starting location the "key battleground" that I've talked about before. Which is something that is very bad for the game. The original 3/2 deck was one of the all-time worst offenders in this category, and it shouldn't really surprise anyone that IITFYS(v) continues to lead to nothing but trouble. I've been trash-talking the card ever since v12 released (and of course granted it the #1 spot on my 20 Dumbest Cards in SWCCG Countdown) and still we can't get rid of the damn thing.*

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i havent played the matchup yet but im convinced my day 2 deck (hdv build a vader) beats the 2/2 deck. it gives me 2 icons which is enough to drop vader or galen on my first turn. vaders cape v should kill yoda with weapon dest plus 1. i wanna try the matchup though.
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puck71 wrote:i havent played the matchup yet but im convinced my day 2 deck (hdv build a vader) beats the 2/2 deck. it gives me 2 icons which is enough to drop vader or galen on my first turn. vaders cape v should kill yoda with weapon dest plus 1. i wanna try the matchup though.
I am with you John. I think build a vader rolls it, but like Aaron said mains vs mains is just one big random luck box of a game.
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not to mention the 2/2 site makes everyone defense value -1. I think you both just keep dying in a bloodbath all day.

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gogolen wrote:not to mention the 2/2 site makes everyone defense value -1. I think you both just keep dying in a bloodbath all day.

Sorry about the mess indeed.
Revenge of the Sith for the win, oh wait... At least you get the Lego Vader one.

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gogolen wrote:not to mention the 2/2 site makes everyone defense value -1. I think you both just keep dying in a bloodbath all day.

Sorry about the mess indeed.
Revenge of the Sith for the win, oh wait... At least you get the Lego Vader one.
vaders cape v gives the plus 2 defense and immunity just like revenge of the sith does (when with mains at least). it doesnt have the anti-poa text but in its place it makes weapon dest draws plus 1 which i think is better.

yes mains on mains at the night club will be a bloodbath, but the force loss from hdv should help swing it. it does depend on if either side can get any big beats in though.
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I am still a bigger fan of WYS, Profit or big drains in space as opposed to the night club though. That's just my two cents, but what the hell do I know? I am only the world champion from sealed deck last year and the runner-up from this year with the glass to prove it. I went 2-1 with light with a DQ for not having the correct list and not playing with a full deck. That is the joke I will be able to live with. Just standing here on my two feet calling it like I see it.
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don't forget the world championship of sitting in a corner by yourself
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Not sure what you mean. Most of the time I wasn't playing I was talking to Derek Brooks or other players. Who are you? I didn't mean to intimidate you into not introducing yourself.
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The Quick wrote:I didn't mean to intimidate you into not introducing yourself.
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I am not saying I am at the top of the totem pole or anything however. Jim Li is the man though and one of the players I did indeed talk to.
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Seems like a lot of players had COTVG decks on day 2. I wonder how they did with them. Profit does seem on the rise.
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Bane Slader wrote:Seems like a lot of players had COTVG decks on day 2. I wonder how they did with them. Profit does seem on the rise.
Well since no one else has commented on this...

I know of 6 players who played court but maybe there were more. 4 Atlanta players (who played my version posted on the main page under Player Decks), Vikram Bali, and Casey Anis (who used a version of Vikram's which is posted in the decks section). I don't know how it did for Vikram and Casey. Their version is mains and starts the Emperor I guess?

My version is Scum and starts AO&WW v, which is surprisingly good. Its a fairly hard deck to play and 2 of the Atlanta players should have played decks they were more comfortable with since they hadn't tested it much. Mike Kessling and I both had played it a lot coming up to worlds and it did well for us. 4-0 for me and 2-1 for him (hmm I thought it was 3-1 but I guess he dropped before his last game). Mike's loss was against the 2/2 deck, which is a hard matchup, but also I played against Harpster playing that deck on Sunday and won, so I don't think its unbeatable. The best players we played were myself against Dan Kim and Mike against Brian Fred. Also Chris Twigg (who made day 3) lost his first game to Nick Culpepper playing it. So it had some real solid wins.

I played against:
HB v speeders
WHT v
TIGIH
QMC

I don't know what any of the other atl players played it against.

It is interesting you mention Profit. I would have liked to play it against ktod profit to test the deck vrs a great profit player, but that pairing just didn't happen for me although I was close to the top tables with them all day. In testing it beats profit fairly well, but I would have liked the ktod challenge at worlds to find out for sure.

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Throdo wrote:
Bane Slader wrote:Seems like a lot of players had COTVG decks on day 2. I wonder how they did with them. Profit does seem on the rise.
Well since no one else has commented on this...

I know of 6 players who played court but maybe there were more. 4 Atlanta players (who played my version posted on the main page under Player Decks), Vikram Bali, and Casey Anis (who used a version of Vikram's which is posted in the decks section). I don't know how it did for Vikram and Casey. Their version is mains and starts the Emperor I guess?

My version is Scum and starts AO&WW v, which is surprisingly good. Its a fairly hard deck to play and 2 of the Atlanta players should have played decks they were more comfortable with since they hadn't tested it much. Mike Kessling and I both had played it a lot coming up to worlds and it did well for us. 4-0 for me and 2-1 for him (hmm I thought it was 3-1 but I guess he dropped before his last game). Mike's loss was against the 2/2 deck, which is a hard matchup, but also I played against Harpster playing that deck on Sunday and won, so I don't think its unbeatable. The best players we played were myself against Dan Kim and Mike against Brian Fred. Also Chris Twigg (who made day 3) lost his first game to Nick Culpepper playing it. So it had some real solid wins.

I played against:
HB v speeders
WHT v
TIGIH
QMC

I don't know what any of the other atl players played it against.

It is interesting you mention Profit. I would have liked to play it against ktod profit to test the deck vrs a great profit player, but that pairing just didn't happen for me although I was close to the top tables with them all day. In testing it beats profit fairly well, but I would have liked the ktod challenge at worlds to find out for sure.




looks like a cool deck dude. id imagine the profit court matchup is a fricking bloodbath. I think you have a good matchup against profit though. But its hard to say, we had a bunch of decks that we were like well this will beat profit and it never quite worked out the way it seemed it could. profit is very good with working with very few resources.

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Throdo wrote:
Bane Slader wrote:Seems like a lot of players had COTVG decks on day 2. I wonder how they did with them. Profit does seem on the rise.
Well since no one else has commented on this...

I know of 6 players who played court but maybe there were more. 4 Atlanta players (who played my version posted on the main page under Player Decks), Vikram Bali, and Casey Anis (who used a version of Vikram's which is posted in the decks section). I don't know how it did for Vikram and Casey. Their version is mains and starts the Emperor I guess?

My version is Scum and starts AO&WW v, which is surprisingly good. Its a fairly hard deck to play and 2 of the Atlanta players should have played decks they were more comfortable with since they hadn't tested it much. Mike Kessling and I both had played it a lot coming up to worlds and it did well for us. 4-0 for me and 2-1 for him (hmm I thought it was 3-1 but I guess he dropped before his last game). Mike's loss was against the 2/2 deck, which is a hard matchup, but also I played against Harpster playing that deck on Sunday and won, so I don't think its unbeatable. The best players we played were myself against Dan Kim and Mike against Brian Fred. Also Chris Twigg (who made day 3) lost his first game to Nick Culpepper playing it. So it had some real solid wins.

I played against:
HB v speeders
WHT v
TIGIH
QMC

I don't know what any of the other atl players played it against.

It is interesting you mention Profit. I would have liked to play it against ktod profit to test the deck vrs a great profit player, but that pairing just didn't happen for me although I was close to the top tables with them all day. In testing it beats profit fairly well, but I would have liked the ktod challenge at worlds to find out for sure.

I don't know the specifics but I favor the deck with more activation unless you're playing a system in cotvg. Ships from reserve is what makes this deck better than other options. List Please?
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The Quick wrote:I don't know the specifics but I favor the deck with more activation unless you're playing a system in cotvg. Ships from reserve is what makes this deck better than other options. List Please?
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Court sucks.

I played against 3 Court decks in my trek thru the sea of jizz day 2 and trounced them all by 20+. The deck just doesn't do any damage. The gameplan against most decks seemed to be, pile 50 dudes in the Audience Chamber and Elis and/or hope the opponent gets pestered enough by the meager 1 ping damage from the Objective to come down and try to fight you. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me.
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yeah i have to agree...how do you do any damage if they leave you alone?

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Throdo wrote:
The Quick wrote:I don't know the specifics but I favor the deck with more activation unless you're playing a system in cotvg. Ships from reserve is what makes this deck better than other options. List Please?
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How much do you activate a turn off of your stuff alone? I've always seen Imperial Supply played for quick early activation in Court. I would be sure to play with maybe not that but for sure Lateral Damage. Against any light side space deck you're playing scum and since you can pretty much attack them with your space fleet anytime you want you can keep retrieving them against stuff like HB or WYS. Against Profit they have to come to you and in the QMC match-up you can Elis guys over if need be or go to cloud city.

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