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Reminds me of this Global Warming comic:
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Both have a similar "there's lots of potential upside and very little potential downside to doing this action" idea.

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My grandmother has tested positive for Covid-19. She is considered a high risk because of her age. But historically she has always been a very resilient woman.
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3MW0J8 wrote:tweets and cartoons..
That does describe what I posted. Well, close.

Tweet and cartoon.

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Gergall wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 1:10 am
My grandmother has tested positive for Covid-19. She is considered a high risk because of her age. But historically she has always been a very resilient woman.
Good luck to her. I hope see recovers easily.
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Archmage wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 6:27 am
Gergall wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 1:10 am
My grandmother has tested positive for Covid-19. She is considered a high risk because of her age. But historically she has always been a very resilient woman.
Goofd luck to her. I hope see recovers easily.
Same.

@Joe - Its really insane to see how entitled our country is. Little sacrifices like wearing a mask is too much.

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Hunter wrote:
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The virus itself isn't spectacular. Its just a respiratory virus. It affects the lungs. I don't expect to see a bunch of people on respirators tomorrow or this week. I expect work to be interesting because the company is going to be doing a lot to try and contain it so they don't have to shut down the plant and stop working thus losing money. The measures will be interesting to watch. The people I work with will be interesting to watch.
Okay, I get you now. That all makes sense, and I agree. Those things could be interesting to watch. Again, I only meant that IF you've had new exposures to Covid at your workplace, I don't think you're going to suddenly see a bunch of people being real sick.
Update on this.

We've had a few people get really sick and are still out from work. We keep having people get minor symptoms and test positive for it. They come back after a few weeks. We are in mandatory mask wearing in our plant. The office building I'm in, is basically just me and a few other people. So since I can stay the * away from them, I don't wear one. People are being written up though on plant floor when they aren't wearing masks. When people interview, they are given a mask and the person doing the interview has one on. Company actually ordered masks for everyone and has a stock so people can swap them out as needed.

We've installed hand sanitizer stations at multiple places in the plant. Our time clocks have them and wipes to wipe off the clock. We were supposed to have upper management come and visit, including CEO, but those got cancelled.

From what I've seen, people went back to daily norms right after Texas opened up to 25%. Didn't even really wait past that. People had big Memorial day parties, which is where this seems to have started from. People aren't social distancing or wearing masks in public. They aren't taking this virus seriously.

Hospitals in Houston are filling up. My cousin who works at the Regional hospital in Conroe, is almost full of COVID patients. During the initial phase, her hospital was able to send them elsewhere. Now those places are full and her hospital is forced to admit them.

Its really sad that people couldn't handle some personal responsibility and now Texas is shutting back down again. How far it shuts down, we don't know. But if we have to shut down all the way again, things will definitely not be good.

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rhendon wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:50 am
Archmage wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 6:27 am
Gergall wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 1:10 am
My grandmother has tested positive for Covid-19. She is considered a high risk because of her age. But historically she has always been a very resilient woman.
Goofd luck to her. I hope see recovers easily.
Same.
Thanks! Seems she is fine. What happened was she went to hospital for an unrelated reason, they tested her (they test everyone), she was positive, but pretty much already over it. Now she is testing negative.

She actually did have some rough symptoms (pneumonia) a couple weeks ago, but they tested her as negative back then, multiple times. Either the tests were faulty or she was in the tiny minority of people that, by random luck, repeatedly give a false positive. (Or, behind door #3, she really didn't have it, but coincidentally had pneumonia and other symptoms and then really did get Covid-19 later)
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I'm glad to hear that Gergall. Thanks for the update.

Emil, I hope you and your wife have recovered and are doing well.

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I got called today at roughly 4:30/5PM and told I'll be going back to work starting Friday.

I was previously on our day shift (10AM-Noon start time; ending time would be 6PM-8PM). I was told, I get a 30 minute video on all of the new COVID-19 rules at 5PM on Friday, and that I start my shift at 6PM. I will be doing 10 hour shifts (so 6PM-4AM), and that while "under best circumstances" it would be 4 day weeks, he said he will admit that it will likely be six to eight days in a row, with 1 day off. I am part of 'phase 2' of the dealers we called back.

I work at a casino. So, with basically 48HR notice of my start time, I got told when I'll be starting back up. Told that I will be changing shift. Only getting a 30Minute video on how work has changed due to COVID-19, and that instead of previously working 5 8HR days (40HR week), I will be working six-to-eight straight days, at 10Hour days (well nights now), while wearing a face shield, and if I wish - a mask as well.

Its been since 3.16 that I've worked, so it will be 13 days shy of 4 months since I last worked. I have every game our casino offers (Blackjack, Spanish 21, Roulette, High Card Flush, Craps, Poker [our poker room is closed though], Pai Gow Poker, Mini-Bac, Midi-Bac, Texas Hold'Em, Four Card Poker, Three Card Poker, Cajun Stud, and Let it Ride).... with zero refresher, I'll be back to work....

And oh yea, there is constant spikes and PA is trending upwards on cases.


Now, of course.... I could have said no, but that 1) means I am terminated from my job, and 2) it means I am ineligible for unemployment benefits or CARES benefits (due to declining to work). So the job basically knows they have us the by the b***s and theres not much we can do.

We did have a worker die from COVID-19 back in early April.






Needless to say..... I am far from happy about going back and quite a bit anxiety ridden.

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Hunter, you've repeatedly said that we're overreporting the coronavirus deaths, as people who die not from covid are getting counted, e.g. here:
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The 100k deaths are likely not the real number, as very few countries have accurate ways of counting right now.
Here again, I couldn't agree more. Since people who didn't die from Coronavirus are VERY FAMOUSLY being counted in the death toll anyway. Want something else that'll keep you busy reading 'til your eyes fall out? Go look for stories about the people who received death certificates for loved ones, saying the cause of death was Covid-related when they know that it wasn't. And they brought it up with the hospital, who just threw up their hands and said "this is what we've been instructed to do, when the deceased has tested positive." But if you read some fact-check articles about whether this is actually happening or not, you'll see that it's even worse than that. Cities have admitted to listing Covid on thousands of death certificates in cases where they only SUSPECTED the person was infected. They aren't even certain the person HAD it to begin with, but it's still going on that death certificate.
Still defending that given the latest Yale study?

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... ified-such

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/officia ... finds.html

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Spoiler Man wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 11:21 pm
I got called today at roughly 4:30/5PM and told I'll be going back to work starting Friday.

I was previously on our day shift (10AM-Noon start time; ending time would be 6PM-8PM). I was told, I get a 30 minute video on all of the new COVID-19 rules at 5PM on Friday, and that I start my shift at 6PM. I will be doing 10 hour shifts (so 6PM-4AM), and that while "under best circumstances" it would be 4 day weeks, he said he will admit that it will likely be six to eight days in a row, with 1 day off. I am part of 'phase 2' of the dealers we called back.

I work at a casino. So, with basically 48HR notice of my start time, I got told when I'll be starting back up. Told that I will be changing shift. Only getting a 30Minute video on how work has changed due to COVID-19, and that instead of previously working 5 8HR days (40HR week), I will be working six-to-eight straight days, at 10Hour days (well nights now), while wearing a face shield, and if I wish - a mask as well.

Its been since 3.16 that I've worked, so it will be 13 days shy of 4 months since I last worked. I have every game our casino offers (Blackjack, Spanish 21, Roulette, High Card Flush, Craps, Poker [our poker room is closed though], Pai Gow Poker, Mini-Bac, Midi-Bac, Texas Hold'Em, Four Card Poker, Three Card Poker, Cajun Stud, and Let it Ride).... with zero refresher, I'll be back to work....

And oh yea, there is constant spikes and PA is trending upwards on cases.


Now, of course.... I could have said no, but that 1) means I am terminated from my job, and 2) it means I am ineligible for unemployment benefits or CARES benefits (due to declining to work). So the job basically knows they have us the by the b***s and theres not much we can do.

We did have a worker die from COVID-19 back in early April.






Needless to say..... I am far from happy about going back and quite a bit anxiety ridden.
I deal poker and yeah, as soon as the county was greenlit for phase 2, we were open. Just like you I didn't have a real option to come back or not. At least the money was ok for me. My girlfriend deals table games and it's been dead. We got back to work for a week and half and her sister got sick Saturday and tested positive for Covid. They'd been hanging out all week, so we're back in quarantine. Work paid for our tests and we're both negative, but it's still two weeks off.
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Your in Seattle? How are the casinos out there? In PA.... its.... pretty much a free for all, and we're used hard. A lot of old school AC people moved over to the PA/MD area and for a long time tried to run it like 70s AC.

Last night was my first day back to work. 5PM-4AM. Today its 6PM-4AM, same with tomorrow, and then I'll get a schedule Monday.

Our casino poker is part of table games (not a split casino). But PGCB has poker closed off for pretty much until theres a vaccine. Dice is 3 per side, roulette is 4 per table, all other games are 3 players per table. We just announced last night that today we'll be going smoke free (casino wide) for the foreseeable future. I'm pretty thrilled about that.

Whats your toke rate average there? I guess its a bit different, being in poker you probably keep your own? We're pulled. Last night's drop was 10~K for the whole day. With our dealers and hours, that'll end up averaging out to be probably about 13-14$ per hour + our base rate. Depends on hours/dealers.

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Your in Seattle? How are the casinos out there? In PA.... its.... pretty much a free for all, and we're used hard. A lot of old school AC people moved over to the PA/MD area and for a long time tried to run it like 70s AC.

Last night was my first day back to work. 5PM-4AM. Today its 6PM-4AM, same with tomorrow, and then I'll get a schedule Monday.

Our casino poker is part of table games (not a split casino). But PGCB has poker closed off for pretty much until theres a vaccine. Dice is 3 per side, roulette is 4 per table, all other games are 3 players per table. We just announced last night that today we'll be going smoke free (casino wide) for the foreseeable future. I'm pretty thrilled about that.

Whats your toke rate average there? I guess its a bit different, being in poker you probably keep your own? We're pulled. Last night's drop was 10~K for the whole day. With our dealers and hours, that'll end up averaging out to be probably about 13-14$ per hour + our base rate. Depends on hours/dealers.
The company I work for is mostly taking things seriously and tries to take care of it's employees. They required masks before the Governor made them. They took distancing seriously and aren't letting people just hang out. Other companies aren't taking it seriously at all. I didn't get exposed through work, I got exposed through my girlfriend's sister, who likely got it working in another casino that isn't taking it seriously at all.

Poker opened five handed, then we put up dividers and we're 7 handed. Table games are 2 per table, or 4 with dividers. My hourly still pretty good. Minimum in WA is 13.50 and they aren't allowed to subsidize with your tips like in some states. Tips average somewhere around $30-$40 an hours for most dealers. I was worried about coming back and tip rates going down, but it hasn't so far. It's a pretty nice gig, especially if you work for a company that doesn't treat it's people like complete *.

Like there's still the understanding that I'm a worker drone, but I can tell they understand that happy, healthy worker drones are better at their jobs and will try to protect their house.
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How have tips not gone down if there's less people at the table? Is it just cause then you can do more hands per hour?

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arebelspy wrote:
July 4th, 2020, 10:20 pm
How have tips not gone down if there's less people at the table? Is it just cause then you can do more hands per hour?
It's basically a combination of that and our customers haven't financially felt any ill effects from the pandemic. Our only customers that have seen a hit were pros that haven't seen success online and they tip pretty flat and their regular tips matter, but it's mostly the losing players that tip the best. Most of them basically just have money burning a hole in their pocket and with reduced capacity, we're 'full' all the time.

Hours overall is what has reduced. I'm one of the few that is getting as many hours as I was before we shut down. I'd say a majority of our employees are on partial unemployment and that's being accommodated. Many have stayed on unemployment and the schedule is still full.
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arebelspy wrote:
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How have tips not gone down if there's less people at the table? Is it just cause then you can do more hands per hour?
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Meto wrote:
July 4th, 2020, 10:28 pm
arebelspy wrote:
July 4th, 2020, 10:20 pm
How have tips not gone down if there's less people at the table? Is it just cause then you can do more hands per hour?
It's basically a combination of that and our customers haven't financially felt any ill effects from the pandemic. Our only customers that have seen a hit were pros that haven't seen success online and they tip pretty flat and their regular tips matter, but it's mostly the losing players that tip the best. Most of them basically just have money burning a hole in their pocket and with reduced capacity, we're 'full' all the time.

Hours overall is what has reduced. I'm one of the few that is getting as many hours as I was before we shut down. I'd say a majority of our employees are on partial unemployment and that's being accommodated. Many have stayed on unemployment and the schedule is still full.
Our casino has been losing so much money in the time we were closed, that they are doing everything and anything to regain money. Some shady. They permanently laid off all full floor during the furlough. When they reopened, they brought back only PT dealers and Dual Rates. And then started phasing in the cheapest of the FT dealers, and had them working 6-8 days straight, 10 hour days. Giving some of them only a 1-day notice to return and even switching them (like myself) from day to swing. A co-worker had to deny going back because he had no way for his son to be watched, and now he can't even collect UE or anything because he technically denied work. Thats the kind of shady BS stuff.

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