The Last Jedi Mafia GAME OVER - SCUM WINS

[puck71]

So, advocate is still confirmed town. Of the others, I feel the best about JJ - he's played a lot of town games and this really seems like one of those.

I'm still leaning slightly toward apollyon as the last scum, but when I looked back at his posts and actions they weren't as scummy as I remembered. vhstapes was kinda pinned as vanilla and has coasted on that the whole game, so I haven't really been looking into him much. Vanilla is the easiest role to claim as scum, although it does run the risk of a "well if we're wrong he's only vanilla" lynch.

[Advocate]

If I die, just go back and see if each players posts added anything to the discussion. I think at this point, I need to do the same.

[vhstapes]

If I die, let my lifeless, pasty-white vanilla creamed skin give you the courage to finally hang Apollyon!!!

[JarJarDrinks]

There was no detainment

Advocate - Resistance - Killed Night 4

Day 5 ends 9/12 @ 4pm

[Advocate]

Good luck town. Bring it home.

[vhstapes]

Good luck town. Bring it home.

You shall be missed!

Vote: Apollyon

I've been in this Apollyon train for a while (since day 1 actually). Call it a tunnel but "I vote against scum" is a pretty weak reason when I asked "why should you stay?" He even threw in that he voted against SK, which would be exactly who scum would have wanted to see lynched that day.

JediJer has put some serious work into helping town. I'm nearly certain he's green. Puck... I wish I were more sure about, he's kinda got that scum lurk thing going on, but there's just no way I put him in a noose over Apollyon. Anyone want to convince me otherwise?

[Apollyon]

Vote: vhstapes

I think he's the last scum.

[vhstapes]

Vote: vhstapes

I think he's the last scum.

Do you just think that or do you have a reason of some sort?

I've thought you were scum since your first post when you went a little too far out of your own way to prove your vote was rng. Then I continued to think you were scum when you acted without consulting the town and then lied about your findings. In a way that actually hurt town!

Whenever the posts start flying you slip into the background, wait for a bandwagon to hop on, and then cast your vote. Scumtastic.

[puck71]

Vote: Apollyon

I wish I was more confident on this. I'll look through tapes' posts and votes to see if anything jumps out.

[vhstapes]

Vote: Apollyon

I wish I was more confident on this. I'll look through tapes' posts and votes to see if anything jumps out.

Why aren't you confident about it?

[puck71]

Vote: Apollyon

I wish I was more confident on this. I'll look through tapes' posts and votes to see if anything jumps out.

Why aren't you confident about it?

Mostly what I said in my last post. I looked back over his posts -- there weren't a ton of them, but looking back they don't seem as scummy as I remembered some of them. But the first day stuff and the lying still put him over the top for me.

[JediJer]

vote apollyon

How does he know that there's only one scum left? There's always a possibility that we had 5 scum. Also, I can see Gergall running the coroner fake claim play. Knowing that jjd selected the roles, it's likely that he wouldn't include the coroner at all, making it a fairly safe claim, or at least high probability of no counter claim.

[JarJarDrinks]

Apollyon (3) - vhstapes, puck71, JediJer
vhstapes (1) - Apollyon

[vhstapes]

How does he know that there's only one scum left?

Very nice catch there.

Lock votes so we can keep things moving? Unless anyone else has something to add.

[Apollyon]

vote apollyon

How does he know that there's only one scum left? There's always a possibility that we had 5 scum. Also, I can see Gergall running the coroner fake claim play. Knowing that jjd selected the roles, it's likely that he wouldn't include the coroner at all, making it a fairly safe claim, or at least high probability of no counter claim.

Because that's town's only chance to win. If there's two scum, town loses, regardless, so I need to maximize my winning %age.

[JediJer]

change vote vhstapes
Honestly, I don't trust any of you three. I think I'd prefer not lynching anyone to a mislynch

[JediJer]

If it's 2/2, then there's no way I can see that town wins. Mislynch and scum wins. Lynch scum and we go to 2/1, night kill to 1/1, tie vote and no lynch, night kill for the scum win.

If it's 3/1, lynch scum and town wins. Mislynch and it's 2/1 and the same situation as above.

So there's really no way there can be 2 scum left, because there wouldn't be any point in playing it out.

[JediJer]

Gah. I really hate this end game crap.

Win or lose, let's just lynch apollyon and get this over with.

change vote apollyon

[vhstapes]

I think I'd prefer not lynching anyone to a mislynch

Ummmmmmmm that is ridiculous. You'd rather throw the game than try to win?

Apollyon, convince me and puck to switch to Jer lol.

[puck71]

I'm basically at the same point. I looked back at all of vhstapes posts and I really don't see anything other than a newb vanilla, like he claimed and like others agreed with (rhendon and hunter at least).