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"Yo mcgayver's lists are * yo. Half the cards u can't tell what they are and I am not just saying that to be obtuse. I am serious. I demand action from the tournament committee or else my lists for worlds are gonna be even more * up than that.

A) You're not funny.
B) Readers legit cannot tell what cards you are playing. "Pimp Bounty?" I have literally seen games with three different cards w/Bounty in title on table at the same time. "Wounded Prostitute" is that wookiee or warrior? "Abyssin Nipple Clamps" are u even serious dude? Come tha * onnn

Deck lists are all or nothing, either we're gonna take em srsly or we're not. It's a shame we have to have this conversation every 6 months but it's cuz of jagoffs like this.

Macgwhatever should be penalized, make him submit his lists for worlds early in typed format and any dicking around on said lists = disqualification.

It's cheating bottom line"

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Moved this here so it doesn't get lost/unseen. I want to 1000000000% agree with Reid on this, everything he said is dead on. I really have nothing to add other than we pretty much hate each other so if me and him agree this strongly on something it's probably correct.



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Yeah, I agree 100 % with Reid.
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i hadn't looked at his lists before. but i played him twice in that event, and even with that information, there were some cards i didn't know what they referred to
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Is Macgyver even going to worlds? I do think he should submit fixed lists asap either way.

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he is not going to worlds
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WiseMarsellus wrote:he is not going to worlds
I hope this doesn't imprint on people's minds that the problem is "fixed". I posted on this a few years back and people got all butt hurt, but I really don't see why we can't follow two simple rules:

1. write the full name of the card
2. write clearly (no offense Tom but your list was almost as bad)

And if people followed those rules then if someone made a mistake and wrote "dash" or "accelerate" intent could be looked at and that would be fine.

I feel like this whole argument is like asking someone to not talk during a movie..."but it's fun and people will think I'm cool."

No, and no.

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from my memory, the most ambiguous card titles:

kevin rietzel anagram = velken tezeri v
bossk w sextoy = bossk with mortar gun v
pimp jabba the hutt v = jabba the hutt v
pimp bounty v = hutt bounty v
wounded prostitute = wounded warrior
imperial contraception = imperial barrier
sonic boom = sonic bombardment v
abyssin nipple shields = abyssin ornament
where are you taking meeeeeeeeee....! = where are you taking this...thing?
phallic deficiency = lightsaber deficiency
dominatrix vallerian = lady valarian

king's landing, king's hand's hut = naboo: boss nass' chambers
cersei's blaster = amidala's blaster
nightswatch saber = ???
queen cersei lannister = queen amidala
senator leia, cersei's bastard daughter = senator leia organa
jerrus "jaime" lannister = jerrus jannick
mace windu, master of the night's watch = mace windu, master of the order
master qui-gon of the night's watch = master qui-gon
it's not joffrey's fault (he had bad parenting) = ???
found jon snow you have = found someone you have v
a good sword at your side = a good blaster at your side
either way, rob doesn't win = either way, you win v
daenerys has decided to go back = i've decided to go back v
the red wedding has occurred = a tragedy has occurred
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WiseMarsellus wrote:from my memory, the most ambiguous card titles:

kevin rietzel anagram = velken tezeri v
bossk w sextoy = bossk with mortar gun v
pimp jabba the hutt v = jabba the hutt v
pimp bounty v = hutt bounty v
wounded prostitute = wounded warrior
imperial contraception = imperial barrier
sonic boom = sonic bombardment v
abyssin nipple shields = abyssin ornament
where are you taking meeeeeeeeee....! = where are you taking this...thing?
phallic deficiency = lightsaber deficiency
dominatrix vallerian = lady valarian

king's landing, king's hand's hut = naboo: boss nass' chambers
cersei's blaster = amidala's blaster
nightswatch saber = ???
queen cersei lannister = queen amidala
senator leia, cersei's bastard daughter = senator leia organa
jerrus "jaime" lannister = jerrus jannick
mace windu, master of the night's watch = mace windu, master of the order
master qui-gon of the night's watch = master qui-gon
it's not joffrey's fault (he had bad parenting) = ???
found jon snow you have = found someone you have v
a good sword at your side = a good blaster at your side
either way, rob doesn't win = either way, you win v
daenerys has decided to go back = i've decided to go back v
the red wedding has occurred = a tragedy has occurred
Everyone who plays swccg should go to a magic tournament, and not fnm, just to see the level of seriousness that is put into running and judging the tournament. I think it would put it into perspective for the people who are in the "why are you ruining our fun" camp.

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allstarz97 wrote:
WiseMarsellus wrote:he is not going to worlds
I hope this doesn't imprint on people's minds that the problem is "fixed".
no, but it means there isn't much ability to 'punish' macgyver if it were to come to that. hopefully if macgyver posts fixed lists asap that would solve things
I posted on this a few years back and people got all butt hurt, but I really don't see why we can't follow two simple rules:

1. write the full name of the card
2. write clearly (no offense Tom but your list was almost as bad)

And if people followed those rules then if someone made a mistake and wrote "dash" or "accelerate" intent could be looked at and that would be fine.

I feel like this whole argument is like asking someone to not talk during a movie..."but it's fun and people will think I'm cool."

No, and no.
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Can someone inform me as to what event these lists are from?? This is the first that I'm hearing of this- probably best to PM me about something like this rather than go crazy about it before I have a chance to look into it.
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the decklist is from alderaan regionals. http://www.starwarsccg.org/index.php?op ... Itemid=149
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
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imrahil327 wrote:Can someone inform me as to what event these lists are from?? This is the first that I'm hearing of this- probably best to PM me about something like this rather than go crazy about it before I have a chance to look into it.
Disagree. I think discussing it publicly is appropriate because it is the public that it affects. Both experienced players (99% of whom write decent lists at every event) and newbs (who rely on these lists as learning tools) alike.
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imrahil327 wrote:Can someone inform me as to what event these lists are from?? This is the first that I'm hearing of this- probably best to PM me about something like this rather than go crazy about it before I have a chance to look into it.

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3MW0J8 wrote:
imrahil327 wrote:Can someone inform me as to what event these lists are from?? This is the first that I'm hearing of this- probably best to PM me about something like this rather than go crazy about it before I have a chance to look into it.
Disagree. I think discussing it publicly is appropriate because it is the public that it affects. Both experienced players (99% of whom write decent lists at every event) and newbs (who rely on these lists as learning tools) alike.
Right, but it could have been solved BEFORE we got to this stage if I'd known about it.


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WiseMarsellus wrote:from my memory, the most ambiguous card titles:

kevin rietzel anagram = velken tezeri v
bossk w sextoy = bossk with mortar gun v
pimp jabba the hutt v = jabba the hutt v
pimp bounty v = hutt bounty v
wounded prostitute = wounded warrior
imperial contraception = imperial barrier
sonic boom = sonic bombardment v
abyssin nipple shields = abyssin ornament
where are you taking meeeeeeeeee....! = where are you taking this...thing?
phallic deficiency = lightsaber deficiency
dominatrix vallerian = lady valarian

king's landing, king's hand's hut = naboo: boss nass' chambers
cersei's blaster = amidala's blaster
nightswatch saber = ???
queen cersei lannister = queen amidala
senator leia, cersei's bastard daughter = senator leia organa
jerrus "jaime" lannister = jerrus jannick
mace windu, master of the night's watch = mace windu, master of the order
master qui-gon of the night's watch = master qui-gon
it's not joffrey's fault (he had bad parenting) = ???
found jon snow you have = found someone you have v
a good sword at your side = a good blaster at your side
either way, rob doesn't win = either way, you win v
daenerys has decided to go back = i've decided to go back v
the red wedding has occurred = a tragedy has occurred
is this for real? after the OP i thought it was like four or five puns in a decklist. what a ridiculous ridiculous thing.
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mikefrench wrote:is this for real? after the OP i thought it was like four or five puns in a decklist. what a ridiculous ridiculous thing.
Yeah, I didn't look at the entire list, but I'm pretty certain at least half of it was what looked like Game Of Thrones references. However, I am not familiar with either the books or the show, so I don't know if it was all GoT or just mostly GoT.

As someone who often relies on decks of top finishers to help me get ideas for my own version of a proven deck, I was rather disappointed to see Nick's decklists written out like this.

At worlds I hope that the TD will quickly peruse each deck list to make sure these sort of things don't happen there, and if they do, the player should be required to rewrite the decklist (either due to trying to be "cute" with silly card names or illegible lists). If they can't get their new list filled out and handed in before game 1 begins, they should take a loss that game.

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That list is absurd. I'd love to hear what Macguyver has to say about it. How are you going to bail yourself out of this one?

Nobody holding a (relatively) high position in the PC should ever do something as dumb as this.

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The TD and I have talked to Nick about it. He has had an emergency situation come up and will not be able to rectify it for a few days, but he is aware of our displeasure.
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