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imrahil327 wrote:The TD and I have talked to Nick about it. He has had an emergency situation come up and will not be able to rectify it for a few days, but he is aware of our displeasure.
Not to pick on anyone specific, (partially because I'm new) but will there be a standard for legibility in the future with Decklists? I'm not so worried about acronyms and such, as those are easier to figure out, but more the ability to actually read someone's decklist due to poor handwriting.



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We try to catch that where we can, but especially at big events it's difficult to track everyone down.
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JediJer wrote: As someone who often relies on decks of top finishers to help me get ideas for my own version of a proven deck, I was rather disappointed to see Nick's decklists written out like this
Not sure what the part before the comma has to do with the part after the comma. Checking that dude's decklists for ideas is not scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's looking underneath the barrel.

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Knowing Nick, he was just having a bit of fun with the lists and will have no problem providing the decklist to anyone who wants it. I have TD'd many tournaments that he turned in decklists for and there was never any problems with any aspect of tournament rules adherence.

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Throdo wrote:Knowing Nick, he was just having a bit of fun with the lists and will have no problem providing the decklist to anyone who wants it. I have TD'd many tournaments that he turned in decklists for and there was never any problems with any aspect of tournament rules adherence.
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There's still an existing tournament guide...there are indeed tournament rules.

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At first I couldn't believe that we actually needed a two page thread about this, and then I realized of course we did because people are stupid.

This * isn't hard. Write the * card's name down. Use the * vslips that we're all supposed to use, and use the card titles that we all use.

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Who is macgyver again? Nick Hickey?

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The Honky Tonk Man wrote:Who is macgyver again? Nick Hickey?
Nick Culpepper, CBT team lead.

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Same person. Pretty sure it's hyphenated, Culpepper-Hickey
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spideyguy0 wrote:Same person. Pretty sure it's hyphenated, Culpepper-Hickey
No relation to Charles? If he's related to Charles, I would have to start being nicer to him, and that would be disappointing.

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This seems such an easy problem to solve.

let's say that there are 40 players. That is 80 pages. One person in about two minutes can skim these into two piles: "OK" & "Question".

Let's say that then out of the 80, there are about 20 that are problematic in that they are unreadable or contain obvious BS card names, or people trying to be cute, then those can be reviewed again. Seperate into "passable" and "require change" piles.

Each player who has an "require change" decklist gets handed the decklist after the first game. They have until the second game starts to re-write the decklist correctly and legibly. If they can't finish by the time of the second game, they take an automatic loss.

In less than 90 minutes or so from collecting decklists you would solve the problem permanently. You would have legible decklists and no more idiotic juvenile card names at furture tournaments.

This simply takes the PC to decide its important for the game to be even marginally professionally run.
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mserisman wrote:This seems such an easy problem to solve.

let's say that there are 40 players. That is 80 pages. One person in about two minutes can skim these into two piles: "OK" & "Question".

Let's say that then out of the 80, there are about 20 that are problematic in that they are unreadable or contain obvious BS card names, or people trying to be cute, then those can be reviewed again. Seperate into "passable" and "require change" piles.

Each player who has an "require change" decklist gets handed the decklist after the first game. They have until the second game starts to re-write the decklist correctly and legibly. If they can't finish by the time of the second game, they take an automatic loss.

In less than 90 minutes or so from collecting decklists you would solve the problem permanently. You would have legible decklists and no more idiotic juvenile card names at furture tournaments.

This simply takes the PC to decide its important for the game to be even marginally professionally run.

I'm not a big name player, nor do I travel to a lot of big events, but I think this is a really sound idea. I would love to see something like this done for at least the "big" events...i.e. Nationals/Continentals, Worlds, the MPC, or any event with 30+ people.
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players really shouldn't be looking at each other's decklists prior to the tournament, especially not for such a questionable benefit
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WiseMarsellus wrote:players really shouldn't be looking at each other's decklists prior to the tournament, especially not for such a questionable benefit
Maybe I missed where this was taking place?
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WiseMarsellus wrote:players really shouldn't be looking at each other's decklists prior to the tournament, especially not for such a questionable benefit
I think Mike's idea (which I like) is that this is something that could be done by the TD during game 1 of Day 2 in lieu of traditional deck checks, which would take much longer.
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This "story" broke over 2 weeks ago and Worlds is now a week away. Still no word from the Tournament Committee. Silence is acceptance, apparently deck lists like these are OK for Worlds?!
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Not on the tournament committee, but as a the TD for worlds I can say if a list like this were pulled for a deck check it would be a big problem since it can't legitimately BE subjected to a deck check. So I can safely say that anyone thinking of trying something like this at worlds is running a HUGE risk of game loss, dq, or worse if they're checked (i.e., not worth it). That said, swapping in a skim of the lists for deck checks in the first round is also definitely doable if the whole list is off but might not catch a card or two being "funny" on a list.

But seriously, just don't be d*cks.

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kcaton wrote: But seriously, just don't be d*cks.
Uh... Kim. You know that you, Candace and the 16-year-old cheerleaders are the only females to show up to SW events. What do you expect?
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I meant d*cks about decklists. Obv the rest is unavoidable :P

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