3MW0J8 wrote:That's real sweet of you to say aggie but the problem then is, nobody (myself included) can remember everything all of the time. Especially as Steve's article says, players of lesser experience and/or skill who may have difficulty remembering just their own cards. So like, in one of your examples you say retrieving w/S&V with the Toolkit out is cheating bar none, but that sounds exactly like the type of thing a player (even a high-caliber player) might accidentally, temporarily forget. Maybe they even refrain from doing something else that turn so they can save Force for Aim High thinking they are about to retrieve. It's an innocent mistake and calling it cheating is overbearing and harsh. That's the problem with trying to paint things black or white when it comes to cheating. Some things are obvious but many aren't.
Lot to read. Will post some more at halftime of this game, but to start I think here's where I'm at:
Forgetting is fine if it's really forgetting or not understanding how something works, not ideal obviously but it does happen. The problem is that it's impossible to tell if people are forgetting on purpose or actually forgetting. When people come out and say that they are purposely doing this tough, that is where you're going to get some negative backlsh...
...But, this method of playing the game was accepted by Decipher for many years as well. Unsure of how that matters, but it seems like it at least should be mentioned. When I first started playing other games, VS, and especially Magic, there was certainly a level of culture shock, but after I got used to it I realized that they did it right.
I dunno, I guess it's all fixed if you yourself are just aware of everything.