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I don't know if there is any way to make this actually work in the software, but my opponent jmwerner just conceded a game on turn 4 or so because he'd forgotten he'd started an OCS table. Is there any way we can re-match that game and have that count instead? I feel a bit bad because the game was far from decided and that battle wasn't even going all that badly for him.

My understanding of the way the league is set up is that what we're trying to do is not practically possible, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

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Thank you for trying this, much appreciated. If its not possible, I just need to be more careful in the future

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Hazardville wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 2:35 am
my opponent jmwerner just conceded a game on turn 4 or so because he'd forgotten he'd started an OCS table.
Can you clarify what this means? I'm not sure I understand the situation or reason for conceding.
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quickdraw3457 wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 7:08 am
Hazardville wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 2:35 am
my opponent jmwerner just conceded a game on turn 4 or so because he'd forgotten he'd started an OCS table.
Can you clarify what this means? I'm not sure I understand the situation or reason for conceding.
According to the chat in gemp, jmwerner created a table for an OCS game at a time where he would have been able to play a complete game. It took some time until Hazardville joined the table and the game started. At that point jmwerner did not have enough time to play a complete game anymore, but since he had "forgotten" that he created the table he had not canceled the invite when it was clear that he would not be able to finish the game. Midway through the game, he then conceded the game when his out of game time ran out.

According to my knowledge, the 2 of them would have been able to cancel the game so that it does not count. But since jmwerner did not do that but instead conceded the game, it is my understanding the result is in the books and there is no way to delete the result (and it is also my opinion that even if it would technically be possible, this situation does not merit a deletion of the result).
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I don't have a horse in this race, but what are the stakes here? Is this game going to make a difference between one of the players making it into the thing at the end of the year? If anything, canceling the game would have messed things up for the number of games each player completed for the purposes of promos or whatever right?
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quickdraw3457 wrote:
Hazardville wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 2:35 am
my opponent jmwerner just conceded a game on turn 4 or so because he'd forgotten he'd started an OCS table.
Can you clarify what this means? I'm not sure I understand the situation or reason for conceding.
He forgot it was an OCS game he started, and conceded thinking it was a regular open game.


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Corran wrote:I don't have a horse in this race, but what are the stakes here? Is this game going to make a difference between one of the players making it into the thing at the end of the year? If anything, canceling the game would have messed things up for the number of games each player completed for the purposes of promos or whatever right?
It literally happened today for March. They have plenty of time to complete their games.

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arebelspy wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 10:02 am
Corran wrote:I don't have a horse in this race, but what are the stakes here? Is this game going to make a difference between one of the players making it into the thing at the end of the year? If anything, canceling the game would have messed things up for the number of games each player completed for the purposes of promos or whatever right?
It literally happened today for March. They have plenty of time to complete their games.
Oh, I was thinking February. Then yeah, it would be nice if they could replay if both players are okay with it.
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Death Star wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 8:48 am

According to the chat in gemp, jmwerner created a table for an OCS game at a time where he would have been able to play a complete game. It took some time until Hazardville joined the table and the game started. At that point jmwerner did not have enough time to play a complete game anymore, but since he had "forgotten" that he created the table he had not canceled the invite when it was clear that he would not be able to finish the game. Midway through the game, he then conceded the game when his out of game time ran out.

According to my knowledge, the 2 of them would have been able to cancel the game so that it does not count. But since jmwerner did not do that but instead conceded the game, it is my understanding the result is in the books and there is no way to delete the result (and it is also my opinion that even if it would technically be possible, this situation does not merit a deletion of the result).
arebelspy wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 10:02 am
He forgot it was an OCS game he started, and conceded thinking it was a regular open game.
These two statements about sum up the situation. I have no idea how long the game had been up in the lobby when I joined it, and we exchanged the standard "good luck high five" stuff, and the game went on. He mentioned we needed to play quickly, which I agreed with since it was late and I didn't want to be up until 3am. I got a tenuous control of the board and he battled into a trick and conceded after I reduced his destiny draw to 1. Afterwards, we talked a bit and it was only then I realized he didn't know it was an OCS table, which is then when I put together the OP here.
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Hazardville wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 3:05 pm
Death Star wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 8:48 am

According to the chat in gemp, jmwerner created a table for an OCS game at a time where he would have been able to play a complete game. It took some time until Hazardville joined the table and the game started. At that point jmwerner did not have enough time to play a complete game anymore, but since he had "forgotten" that he created the table he had not canceled the invite when it was clear that he would not be able to finish the game. Midway through the game, he then conceded the game when his out of game time ran out.

According to my knowledge, the 2 of them would have been able to cancel the game so that it does not count. But since jmwerner did not do that but instead conceded the game, it is my understanding the result is in the books and there is no way to delete the result (and it is also my opinion that even if it would technically be possible, this situation does not merit a deletion of the result).
arebelspy wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 10:02 am
He forgot it was an OCS game he started, and conceded thinking it was a regular open game.
These two statements about sum up the situation. I have no idea how long the game had been up in the lobby when I joined it, and we exchanged the standard "good luck high five" stuff, and the game went on. He mentioned we needed to play quickly, which I agreed with since it was late and I didn't want to be up until 3am. I got a tenuous control of the board and he battled into a trick and conceded after I reduced his destiny draw to 1. Afterwards, we talked a bit and it was only then I realized he didn't know it was an OCS table, which is then when I put together the OP here.
Wait, GL, HF means Good Luck, High Five? I thought it was Have Fun! Am I really this wrong about everything? This makes me question my very existence... What does it all mean?
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Corran wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 3:31 pm
Hazardville wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 3:05 pm
Death Star wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 8:48 am

According to the chat in gemp, jmwerner created a table for an OCS game at a time where he would have been able to play a complete game. It took some time until Hazardville joined the table and the game started. At that point jmwerner did not have enough time to play a complete game anymore, but since he had "forgotten" that he created the table he had not canceled the invite when it was clear that he would not be able to finish the game. Midway through the game, he then conceded the game when his out of game time ran out.

According to my knowledge, the 2 of them would have been able to cancel the game so that it does not count. But since jmwerner did not do that but instead conceded the game, it is my understanding the result is in the books and there is no way to delete the result (and it is also my opinion that even if it would technically be possible, this situation does not merit a deletion of the result).
arebelspy wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 10:02 am
He forgot it was an OCS game he started, and conceded thinking it was a regular open game.
These two statements about sum up the situation. I have no idea how long the game had been up in the lobby when I joined it, and we exchanged the standard "good luck high five" stuff, and the game went on. He mentioned we needed to play quickly, which I agreed with since it was late and I didn't want to be up until 3am. I got a tenuous control of the board and he battled into a trick and conceded after I reduced his destiny draw to 1. Afterwards, we talked a bit and it was only then I realized he didn't know it was an OCS table, which is then when I put together the OP here.
Wait, GL, HF means Good Luck, High Five? I thought it was Have Fun! Am I really this wrong about everything? This makes me question my very existence... What does it all mean?
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As for the OP, I think this is just one of those painful lessons, and a cautionary tale for each competitor in the OCS.
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gogolen wrote:
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As for the OP, I think this is just one of those painful lessons, and a cautionary tale for each competitor in the OCS.
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gogolen wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 5:22 pm
As for the OP, I think this is just one of those painful lessons, and a cautionary tale for each competitor in the OCS.
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Yeah, its fine. I'm just kicking myself. My HD usually has a pretty good handle on Legend, even if I lose an early battle.

But it won't matter, I don't play Court, Diplo or NI so I have no shot.

Now I'm rooting for the Battle Droids deck! Chaos!! ;)

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Corran wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 10:50 am
Oh, I was thinking February. Then yeah, it would be nice if they could replay if both players are okay with it.
I would say that asking a player to give back a win goes against the precedence set by the no requesting additional time rule.
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JarJarDrinks wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 1:20 pm
Corran wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 10:50 am
Oh, I was thinking February. Then yeah, it would be nice if they could replay if both players are okay with it.
I would say that asking a player to give back a win goes against the precedence set by the no requesting additional time rule.
Also, asking for a rematch goes against the scheduling games against opponents rule.

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talonjohn wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 3:47 am
Yeah, its fine. I'm just kicking myself. My HD usually has a pretty good handle on Legend, even if I lose an early battle.

But it won't matter, I don't play Court, Diplo or NI so I have no shot.

Now I'm rooting for the Battle Droids deck! Chaos!! ;)
I agree with you, Legend has a hard time with HD.

Needs OOC/TT x2 & start a system.
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I was playing OA in that game, not Legend.

Well, thanks for the input everybody. Month’s not going great for me either so far, but there’s always next month!


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